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By "Lutheran" I believe he is referring to a straight sort of reading & teaching of Martin Luther. <br /><br />I understand that in many ways Lutheranism has departed & strongly disagreed with much of Luther's teachings and examples. So I don't discount that you have not encountered the classic Lutheran dialectic, as the movement has made some significant shifts in the past 50 years. Paul Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896206113481631957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-80947638037292562812016-06-16T20:17:32.172-07:002016-06-16T20:17:32.172-07:00sorry, don't say that.sorry, don't say that. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938521896760289546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-79809429114612432162016-06-16T20:17:05.173-07:002016-06-16T20:17:05.173-07:00So you're saying that Lutherans believe that P...So you're saying that Lutherans believe that Paul opposes works? "Recent scholarship has helpfully drawn attention to the fact that Paul is not opposing good works here (i.e., acts of love and mercy) as a typical Lutheran reading would claim..."<br /><br />I'm a Lutheran and we say that. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10938521896760289546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-37585855089532881752016-03-19T04:32:27.386-07:002016-03-19T04:32:27.386-07:00God bless you! God bless you! God bless you! This ...God bless you! God bless you! God bless you! This is one of the richest readings I've ever come across. I know the Holy Spirit lead me to this. If not for anyone, I know this was right on time just for me! This brought so much clarity,understanding and peace. Thank you so much and may God continue to favor you! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15485043062687209524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-40994046541279822232016-03-19T04:31:57.157-07:002016-03-19T04:31:57.157-07:00Thanks for sharing. Wonderful examplesThanks for sharing. Wonderful examplesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15485043062687209524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-68160202120775643252016-03-19T04:30:31.054-07:002016-03-19T04:30:31.054-07:00Thanks for sharing. Wonderful examplesThanks for sharing. Wonderful examplesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15485043062687209524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-50655753951391348252016-03-10T06:02:58.628-08:002016-03-10T06:02:58.628-08:00Great article! I have always thought of this compa...Great article! I have always thought of this comparison between the two but have never thought of the positives. I have always leaned to how dead the church is and how Christians walk into Church like Zombies. Thank you for shedding some new light on this!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14158105638836521028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-37638004450996076312015-07-09T05:47:57.930-07:002015-07-09T05:47:57.930-07:00That’s a very good point about culture sensitivity...That’s a very good point about culture sensitivity! As we come across people of different cultures and mindsets, it’s important to keep in mind how we can win people to Christ above all. In that case we may need to change our behavior occasionally for the sake of others as Paul brought up in 1 Corinthians 8:9-13 (and as you experienced in England lol)… In the end, if we strive to glorify God in all we do, we’ll be in good “shape” lol ;)Daniellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07658509750956511705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-83778321475629357192015-07-08T13:11:03.199-07:002015-07-08T13:11:03.199-07:00Thanks Daniella for your thoughtful and courteous ...Thanks Daniella for your thoughtful and courteous reply! <br /><br />I have a funny story about the about the middle finger thing. When I was living in England I gave a friend of mine a causal "peace sign"(or what I thought was) one day as a parting expression. He didn't think I meant peace, but rather all the implications of the middle finger. I discovered that day that the middle finger also included the index finger as well in English culture. I could try to convince my friend that I meant "peace" but they suggested that I don't keep up that action while living in England. Now back here in Canada, I can give people the peace sign all I want. ;) <br /><br />Perhaps that is a good metaphor for our discussion? We need to be sensitive to the culture. I am all for creating and calling 'yoga' something different to help clear up confusion. I think that is wise on your part to suggest that. I just want to be sensitive to those who "live in Canada" and have no problem calling retaining the word yoga. (i.e. Christian Yoga, Holy Yoga) While it may be confusing for us "in England", we need to practice cultural sensitivity to those who choose to label it as so.Paul Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896206113481631957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-71009954938233511932015-07-08T12:38:29.645-07:002015-07-08T12:38:29.645-07:00Hey Paul, thanks for the response. I think you may...Hey Paul, thanks for the response. I think you may have misunderstood me slightly. I agree, we have the freedom to stretch in any way we like without fear of condemnation. For example, I stretch everyday and do plenty of downward dogs and upward facing dogs positions. I'm not doing yoga, I'm just stretching :)<br /><br />So it's not what the movement looks like but rather the intent behind it. However, if I willingly join a yoga class, then I'm not just "stretching" anymore but rather participating in the practice of something that has a different purpose and intent. The series and sequences of movements of a yoga class (from start to finish) are meant to get you to a level of complete relaxation and a deep state of meditation for the purpose of "yoking" with your God-consciousness (as I mentioned before). That's where the Hindus nailed it. They created a "series" of movements in conjunction with breathing techniques and meditative cues that will lead people in this practice of self-submission,clearing your mind and body and mentally "checking out". My problem with that remains if you're "checking out" then who or what is "checking in"? That's the power of yoga and the spiritual danger behind it. So again Christians can try to redeem that and pray to God instead (which I have no issue with if they're doing it with a clear heart and conscience), but overall it can be confusing and problematic for believers who don't have a strong relationship with Christ. If you haven't done yoga then I can understand where this point can be missed but I will definitely defend yoga as a powerful way to "clear out your mind" and "check out". However, unfortunately those practices just don't line up with God's word for how we are supposed to use our bodies and connect with him so why are we taking from another religion and using it for our own purposes?<br /><br />And you're absolutely right, even though I call tomorrow Thursday, it doesn't mean I'm worshiping Thor. And if I do something that "looks" like yoga, it doesn't mean I'm worshiping a Hindu god. But if I willingly choose to participate in the yoga practice, then I'm doing yoga as it was originally intended by the Hindus ...there's no way around it.. I can't call something yoga and instead do pilates or foam rolling. So that's where my suggestion would be. If you want to use movements that look like yoga and breathing exercises, there's no problem there. But if you're calling it yoga, it's always (at least in my opinion) going to be confused with the original Hindu practice which was never meant and STILL doesn't glorify our God. Like your post mentioned, we have to be mindful of those "weaker in the faith" and that's where I was going with not calling something "yoga" or associating the name with it. As Christians who do yoga-like stretching we're not worshiping a Hindu god so why not call it something else (or come up with something Christian based like the creator of WholyFit?). Anyway, I hope that's clearer!<br /><br />I think about it this way -- if I stick my middle finger up at you, it has a bad meaning right? But what if I try to change it's meaning and say "No, no, please don't misunderstand. When I stick my middle finger up at you, it's my way of saying I love you and Hello!"...I think no matter how hard you try, each time I stuck my middle finger up at you, you would be confused LOL...That's how I see things when Christians try to do yoga exactly like the Hindus and just change the names or words to be more Christian friendly. I understand the intention and by no means am I passing judgement...but I do feel it just creates confusion because yoga IS a Hindu spiritual practice in eyes of many people. It's even confusing to me (as a a believer and former yoga practitioner) to call something Holy or Christian yoga. As always, I welcome your thoughts :)Daniellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07658509750956511705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-1364097960063455922015-07-08T11:30:11.899-07:002015-07-08T11:30:11.899-07:00Rock n' Roll, or any musical genre, is more th...Rock n' Roll, or any musical genre, is more than an art form. As a guitarist myself, I can tell you that there is a huge physicality to playing music. I ring out the same chords, bend the same notes, and sing in the same keys as many other musicians. This can all have the appearance that I'm in a rock band, but I can assure you that appearances are deceiving! <br /><br />Judging by your comment, it appears you just have an issue with the name; which I all in favour of calling it something else. But I might suggest that you start calling the days of the week something else as well. For example tomorrow is Thursday. The English word Thursday is named after the Norse god of thunder, Thor. Thursday literally means “Thor's day” in Old English. Thor is represented riding a chariot drawn by goats and wielding the hammer. Now, are you worshiping Thor by using the term Thursday? Just a thought.;) <br /><br />In your last paragraph you mention "systems of movement". I am curious what you mean by this? If you mean for instance, a Christian can't do a 'downward dog' type motion, then I think this is problematic. I believe God created the human body, not satan. I should be able to stretch in any way that God designed my body to stretch. Telling a person to 'avoid the appearance' of a certain movement, I believe, is to give too much credit to satan. An example of this is my wife. She has scoliosis and has to regularly stretch to manage the constant back pain. Her doctors have given her a booklet of stretches and excises to help her mobility. One of those exercises looked EXACTLY like the common yoga position downward facing dog. Should my wife tell her doctor she can't form that position because satan has corrupted it forever? Or can she stretch her body in the way God created her too? Paul Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896206113481631957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-80656248016909210972015-07-08T10:50:14.410-07:002015-07-08T10:50:14.410-07:00I often struggled with this conflict as well. And ...I often struggled with this conflict as well. And I like your analogy to Rock n’ Roll music and the church which makes me laugh because I see the same thing occurring these days with rap music and the extremely talented Christian rap artists in the music scene.<br /><br />But I do think what is often overlooked with Christians who do yoga is that this IS NOT an “art form” like a musical genre (i.e. rock n’roll, rap) that is being redeemed for Christ. Instead, this is ANOTHER religions’s “spiritual practice” that we are trying to redeem for Christ. For what it’s worth, Yoga has and always will be a “Hindu spiritual practice” with a unique and powerful system/sequence of physical poses, breathing exercises and meditation that allow us to “unite” or yoke with our God-consciousness (or as some say the Hindu god , Brahman). This is what yoga was originally intended for and as someone who used to do it regularly, it’s very powerful in creating a state of “relaxation” or better yet, an altered state of consciousness. That its purpose which isn’t completely aligned with how the bible tells us to meditate and “connect” with Him.<br /><br />Some Christians have tried to redeem this and say “Well I can pray/focus on God while doing yoga, etc” or “I can just do the stretching” which is true. But at the same time, I would rather see it called something else like “Christian stretching and meditation” rather than Christian Yoga. When you call something yoga, it IS yoga and has the power to confuse people. If you’re praying to God while doing yoga, than really you’re just stretching, breathing and meditating on Him…you’re NOT doing yoga so call it something else :)<br /><br />I don’t need to yoga to get to an altered state of consciousness to connect more fully with my God, which is why I no longer do it. I no longer participate in yoga-like practices that call for passively “emptying my mind” but instead focus on actively “renewing my mind”. Again, the system of yoga traditionally goes against our Christian beliefs but I don’t believe stretching, breathing and meditating are in and of themselves bad. If we want to redeem the postures and breathing, I’m all for it but it shouldn’t use the same name or systems of movements as yoga since again we’re just creating confusion and “stealing” from another religion’s way of worshiping their god. Just my thoughts ;)Daniellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07658509750956511705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-11752177474779671412014-12-29T12:45:43.593-08:002014-12-29T12:45:43.593-08:00Why does "genocide" reflect a modernist ...Why does "genocide" reflect a modernist low view of Scripture? <br />Paul Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896206113481631957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-327839846005107902014-12-17T07:20:27.766-08:002014-12-17T07:20:27.766-08:00(Blogger is such a pain for leaving comments...but...(Blogger is such a pain for leaving comments...but maybe that is its intention...you type a comment than it has you sign in and the comment is erased...Wordpress is much handier)<br /><br />Flood: "“genocide narrative is a central theme of the books of Deuteronomy and Joshua,..." That was enough to tell me not to waste my time with this book. "Genocide" reflects a modernist very low view of Scripture. The title should be Neutering Scripture (And I am a Christian pacifist and, incidentally deal with the same passages.) http://textsincontext.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/30th-anniversary-chrisian-pacifism/ MikeSnowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12462825086786614647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-12819977711549100072014-07-19T19:53:09.584-07:002014-07-19T19:53:09.584-07:00Hello, Paul! Mike Morrell asked me to contact you ...Hello, Paul! Mike Morrell asked me to contact you because he really appreciates your blog and thinks you'd be an excellent candidate for his Speakeasy Blogger Network. Do you like to review off-the-beaten path faith, spirituality, and culture books? Speakeasy puts interesting books in your hands at no charge to you. You only get books when you request them, and it's free to join. 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Unfortunately, I have narrowed this blog post to the discussion surrounding 10.6.2.2.3. <br /><br />Robb, I fear that you have understated the Professor’s comments.There was one point, during a reply to those who suggested replacement scriptures, that the Professor clearly said, “there is no Scripture that will accomplish what we are trying to do with this amendment.” What exactly was the Professor suggesting that we were trying to accomplish? We were trying to land in a ditch by prohibiting freedoms legislatively. We are adding our tradition where Scripture is silent and I believe it is one of the 'ditches' to try to legislate grey areas. It reduces Paul lengthy discussions about Weaker and Stronger brothers/sisters (Romans 14-15) into a sweeping statement of "NO", rather than the tension of freedom and the love of neighbour. I submit that legislating a 'meat issue' in favour of the Weaker brother/sister, is to ignore Paul's whole discussion on the subject. <br /><br /> I want to believe that this is merely an issue of hermeneutics. I am still open to that possibility, however, I did not hear another theologian offer an alternative reading of the texts. I DID hear many anecdotal evidences and proof-texts offered up, but no serious discussion on any text that would have supported 10.6.2.2.3. I think that is a glaring fact requires your attention. (Remember, I have limited my points to what was spoken during the discussion time. AND I asked you to provide an example that was given during that time... still waiting.)<br /><br /> As a side note, I think you have seriously misunderstood me by suggesting that I have presented a “Bible vs PAOC” argument. That is simply not the case, as both the ‘con’ and ‘pro’ categories are found within the PAOC. <br /><br />I agree we need more serious mature discussions. One's that honour and respect those with PHD's among us. Paul Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896206113481631957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-71076219719928384472014-05-09T09:18:08.537-07:002014-05-09T09:18:08.537-07:00I guess I would first begin with context. What wei...I guess I would first begin with context. What weighs heavily on Dave Wells (one of the finest Christian leaders (of any stripe) in the entire country) and the team is the 2020 Initiative. Which ,by the way, is the real news of the conference. It encapsulates the vision that we would increase to 1% of the Canadian population, with 350,000 Christ-followers and 1500 disciple making communities by the year 2020. The implications of this are staggering, not only within our borders but in in our influence beyond. Bringing this to pass is a BHAG ( Big Hairy Audacious Goal) that compels me to cry out to The LORD of the harvest for His wisdom and power. Unpacking this is what should be ( to quote J.I. Packer) “ getting our knickers in a knot”. We have MUCH bigger fish to fry than whether we get to quaff a pint. <br /><br />But to your request, about nuance. Let me give you one small example. You reduce things to:<br /><br />“Therefore, I believe, we could accurately say of the ‘con’ position: “PAOC is the absolutely supreme and sufficient in authority in all matters of faith and practice for credential holders.”” <br /><br />It’s a great one-liner. It’s the stuff of preaching that will rouse the choir. It is also reductionistic and misleading. <br /><br />Nobody that I talked to considered the scripture(s) attached to the motion as a ‘proof text’. The question is whether the particular scriptures can shine light on our practices. Someone respectfully asked, from the floor, if the other scriptures in the discussion document could be considered, in its place. The Professor said he felt that it couldn’t. He offered his valued and educated opinion. However, there were those in the assembly who, based on their reading of the considered texts, felt that the principles in these texts most certainly illuminated the discussion and provided a point of reference. This was an issue of hermeneutics and application, not the PAOC vs The Bible. <br /><br />On a personal note: As I write this, I think “ I don’t have time for this”. I am up to my eyelids, and stretched beyond recognition, in stuff that is actually core to the reason I exist. A significant piece of what I do is facilitate alternatives to the narrative of a multi-billion dollar industry for young adults (that are squarely in its crosshairs). And I pick up the pieces. There may be others with different capacities and priorities. The reason I do write , Paul, is not primarily because of the issue itself, but because I see a certain disrespect implicit in your reduction of what was a profound discussion in a profound conference. I have grown, with the perspective of time and breadth of experience, to love and appreciate our Fellowship. <br /><br />We need more mature conversations: Not ones that reduce the other side to cardboard cutouts. <br /><br />Robb Powellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15626726783024494033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3694855076771545663.post-2236421135172681882014-05-09T04:36:49.744-07:002014-05-09T04:36:49.744-07:00Thank you Robb for your comments! I was wondering ...Thank you Robb for your comments! I was wondering if could you give an example of a nuance in the discussion that was presented during the discussion time?<br /><br />I agree that it would have been surprising to see this issue resolved in one session of the General Conference. The PAOC family will need to continue to hash this issue out in the next few years. I hope this blog post is useful to both sides of the discussion. If you have something else to add or subtract, please do share your thoughts, as 'concluding questions' have suggested. <br /><br />God Bless! Paul Walkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15896206113481631957noreply@blogger.com